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is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. standing by live in pakistan, reza, how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard a lot of rhetoric from both sides, finger pointing, accusations. this is more than rhetoric. i think things changed after the raid on the bin laden compound here in pakistan in may. this was viewed by many here in pakistan as an embarrassment for the country and the military. it was viewed as a violation of pakistan's sovereignty by people here. i think ever since then, both sides have made moves that substantially changed the complexion of this relationship. withholding $ 00 million of u.s. aid is significant. this is cash and military equipment. the messa
is withholding $800 million in military aid to pakistan. a major indication that the rift between the two countries is only growing. the u.s. and pakistan are allies but there are major trust issues between the two, especially after u.s. special forces found osama bin laden hiding snuggly inside pakistan. standing by live in pakistan, reza, how does this impact u.s./pakistani relations? >> reporter: i think this hurts a relationship that's already on shaky ground. for years we have heard...
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show that the al-qaida network was angry and frustrated by the cia campaign in the tribal areas of pakistan and achieving the objective to take senior operatives off of the battlefield and keep the group under pressure so it is difficult for operatives to plan, train and raise money. uma, it is no coincidence that we are starting an identical campaign in yemen. yemen is one of the rising threatt hubs and americans are front and center in al-awaki who i describe is leader of al-qaida 2.0. he was overlooked in a key player in the al-qaida network. why was he not taken seriously? >> one of the things i lay out in the book behind the scene was our . what i showed in interviews and phone records. al-awlaki's contact with the hijackers were evidence of a personful relationship. when he return to the pentagon in 2002 as part of the outreach to moderate muslims, it was like a thief returnns to the scene of the crime, he was contacted with three of the five hijackers on flight 577 that went in the building. >>> and one of the things that is interesting, you want people to understand that this is not
show that the al-qaida network was angry and frustrated by the cia campaign in the tribal areas of pakistan and achieving the objective to take senior operatives off of the battlefield and keep the group under pressure so it is difficult for operatives to plan, train and raise money. uma, it is no coincidence that we are starting an identical campaign in yemen. yemen is one of the rising threatt hubs and americans are front and center in al-awaki who i describe is leader of al-qaida 2.0. he was...
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part pressure to get pakistan to do more. part retaliation because pakist pakistan threw out a lot of army trainers after the u.s. killed osama bin laden. it's because they threw out these trainers they can't have this aid because you really comes as a package deal. u.s. personnel on the ground. you have to play, if you want us to pay, don. >> so, elise, how serious is this riff between afghanistan and islam bad? >> it's gradually decreasing. a lot for fit for tat and what is going to happen next now that the u.s. reduced this aid. what are the pakistanis going to do? the u.s. is already very concerned that it can't trust the pakistani military and the pakistani intelligence with the information they're giving them about the milmilitants. so, a big concern right now and you'll see a lot of the u.s. going it alone, such as these drone strikes. >> could this backfire and limit u.s. leverage over pakistan on counterterrorism cooperation? >> it certainly could, but things are pretty bad as they are. i think the calculation by u.s
part pressure to get pakistan to do more. part retaliation because pakist pakistan threw out a lot of army trainers after the u.s. killed osama bin laden. it's because they threw out these trainers they can't have this aid because you really comes as a package deal. u.s. personnel on the ground. you have to play, if you want us to pay, don. >> so, elise, how serious is this riff between afghanistan and islam bad? >> it's gradually decreasing. a lot for fit for tat and what is going...
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-pakistan relations rockier. but first we get the latest to debt crisis back and forth from a gang member -- gap of six member, rather. senator mike crapo. my cream is what makes stouffer's fettuccini alfredo so delicious. i think you'll find it's the vegetables. deliciously rich. flavorful! [ female announcer ] together at last. introducing new stouffer's farmers' harvest with sides of lightly sauteed farm-picked vegetables. find more ways to get to the table at letsfixdinner.com. is non-stop to seattle? just carry new preparation h totables. discreet, little tubes packed with big relief. from the brand doctors recommend most by name. new preparation h totables. the anywhere preparation h. >> bret: members of the so-called bipartisan gang of six today stood before a group of their fellow senators briefing them on the work they've done so far toward a debt deal. idaho senator mike crapo is one of them. he joins us here in studio. good evening, senator. >> good evening. >> bret: let's start first of all with a bro
-pakistan relations rockier. but first we get the latest to debt crisis back and forth from a gang member -- gap of six member, rather. senator mike crapo. my cream is what makes stouffer's fettuccini alfredo so delicious. i think you'll find it's the vegetables. deliciously rich. flavorful! [ female announcer ] together at last. introducing new stouffer's farmers' harvest with sides of lightly sauteed farm-picked vegetables. find more ways to get to the table at letsfixdinner.com. is non-stop...
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pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal? $800 million of aids has been suspended. >> both sides are working together on a number of things and pakistan is not happy with the pace of delivery of assistance. americans are not happy with the pace of delivery of certain deliverables from pakistan. it happens sometimes. right now because pakistan is a fledgling democracy and everything that happens there hits the media and there's an american domestic political context in which everything becomes an issue because of the way people react to your administration. this has become -- >> the reaction in pakistan to the u.s. decis
pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal?...
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. >>> building anything in afghanistan and pakistan is a challenge. building orphanage is miraculous. this woman is giving hundreds of orphans a home and hope. you had a chance to interview the lady. how did she get out? >> it's a remarkable story. she is only 20 and she has accomplished more in her 28 years than most of us have. she went to extreme poverty and sought terrible things in refugee camps in iran and pakistan and at a young age, she wanted to make sure that children of afghanistan, future of this country will never have to endure what i went through. and i just want to read one thing she told me which is also on her website. she says for me is there a practical remedy for the ignorance oppression and hate rid and poverty so deeply embedded in society. raise a new generation of new boys and girls. >> a new generation. with this philosophy, these kids in poverty, they turn to extremism. they end up being the people that want to kill us and she knows that. that is why she wants to do this even more. >> it's interesting question. because i ask
. >>> building anything in afghanistan and pakistan is a challenge. building orphanage is miraculous. this woman is giving hundreds of orphans a home and hope. you had a chance to interview the lady. how did she get out? >> it's a remarkable story. she is only 20 and she has accomplished more in her 28 years than most of us have. she went to extreme poverty and sought terrible things in refugee camps in iran and pakistan and at a young age, she wanted to make sure that children...
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host: when that happens, how does the country in vision relations with pakistan, especially along the borders and with concerns about safe-haven? guest: safe havens, unfortunately, it is a fact that now everyone enologist. this is something we have been saying for the last 10 years or so. our president has still insisted on this. unless you are dealing with the safe haven, which is the root cause, no matter when you do in afghanistan. we will not get the objectives that we are both looking for. this is a problem, but the good news is we have had a constructive dialogue with pakistani government and also with other relevant authorities in pakistan to come up with a reconciliation program, something that we can both benefit from, to be an honest partner for the fight. host: for those discussions foster and all by the death of t osama bin laden? guest: even before that, we had started that discussion. now, after the death of bin laden, which was a great success for the afghan people and our partners, that created a unique environment for the reconciliation and everyone should take it ver
host: when that happens, how does the country in vision relations with pakistan, especially along the borders and with concerns about safe-haven? guest: safe havens, unfortunately, it is a fact that now everyone enologist. this is something we have been saying for the last 10 years or so. our president has still insisted on this. unless you are dealing with the safe haven, which is the root cause, no matter when you do in afghanistan. we will not get the objectives that we are both looking for....
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we had a pakistan cricket scandal, caught a politician with trousers around his ankles after getting voted in as a happy married man. every couple months five million people bought that and 12 million people read that. so the important stories have massive power that they wouldn't otherwise have had. >> obviously these techniques look very different when they're employed against ordinary people who are not celebrities, not famous athletes, not members of the royal family. you mentioned hugh grant. his phone was hacked by "news of the world." he is suinging. you had a chance encounter, and he actually taped your conversation. let me play a little of that for our viewers. >> do you think it's right the only person with a decent digital scanner these days is the government. 20 years ago we all had a gone. are you comfortable that the only people who can listen to them now are -- >> celebrities themself, you justify because they're reach? >> yeah, i mean -- >> if you don't like it, just get off the stage. you don't believe celebrities have any right to privacy at all it sounds like? >> w
we had a pakistan cricket scandal, caught a politician with trousers around his ankles after getting voted in as a happy married man. every couple months five million people bought that and 12 million people read that. so the important stories have massive power that they wouldn't otherwise have had. >> obviously these techniques look very different when they're employed against ordinary people who are not celebrities, not famous athletes, not members of the royal family. you mentioned...
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there is a route that comes through these areas, coming from pakistan into afghanistan. most of them are used for commerce. and this goes farther into the larger cities. but they also use this to bring in a equipment to tackle the coalition forces. this is the biggest city in the area, with the most local populace. this is a center for trade and commerce in the area. and these provinces where nato has not had much of a presence until quite recently, these are the border provinces that only began getting a large number of troops in the past year. the population is not very friendly to the coalition. so the population will harbor fighters for the taliban, and they will hold weapons for them and are aware of taliban movements. the approach for this province is to target, in a sense, the civilian populations. not with violence, but when they need intelligence -- you have to visit houses. you have to march out to where they are concentrated, to start knocking on doors, demanding to be let in. they will break the door down. but you knock on the door, trying to be as friendly a
there is a route that comes through these areas, coming from pakistan into afghanistan. most of them are used for commerce. and this goes farther into the larger cities. but they also use this to bring in a equipment to tackle the coalition forces. this is the biggest city in the area, with the most local populace. this is a center for trade and commerce in the area. and these provinces where nato has not had much of a presence until quite recently, these are the border provinces that only...
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and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> you're watching live pictures of the rose garden. the president's about to come
and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving...
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pakistan, not happy. now, not long after that, pakistan threw out all of the meamerican and british military trainers working with the armed forces, the u.s. this time. not happy. last week, mike mullen accused the government knowing all about the murder of a journalist critical of the government. pakistan denies that and isn't happy. fast forward -- the white house confirms $800 million, more than a third here, a third of the united states annual anti-terrorism aid package to pakistan will be stopped. this is how president obama's chief of staff describes the relationship. and i want you to listen very closely for one word, bill dailey uses more than once. >> complicated relationship and a very difficult complicated part of the world. there's still a lot of pain that the political system in pakistan is feeling by virtue of the raid that we did to get osama bin laden. something that the president felt strongly about. we have no regrets over. but the pakistani relationship is difficult but it must be made
pakistan, not happy. now, not long after that, pakistan threw out all of the meamerican and british military trainers working with the armed forces, the u.s. this time. not happy. last week, mike mullen accused the government knowing all about the murder of a journalist critical of the government. pakistan denies that and isn't happy. fast forward -- the white house confirms $800 million, more than a third here, a third of the united states annual anti-terrorism aid package to pakistan will be...
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babies just like these are being found in garbage dumps all around pakistan, thrown away by families who just don't want them just because they're girls. and girls, by the way, are considered a financial burden on families there. i want you to watch this report. >> reporter: it's in garbage piles like this where according to an aid group pakistan's worst tragedy is unfolding. the killing and dumping of newborn baby girls. >> sometimes they kill, they hang -- >> reporter: they hang them? >> they hang them and sometimes they're killed by knife and sometimes we find dead bodies that have been burned. >> reporter: a manager at pakistan's largest privately run social service and relief agency. at call centers like this, aid workers receive reports of more than 1,200 newborns and infants killed or left to die in pakistan last year, up 200 from 2009. the tiny corpses that are found end up in this morgue here. these five were found within the past few days, all of them double play pd around karachi. it's hard to believe that wrapped inside these sheets are newborns that never had a chance. a
babies just like these are being found in garbage dumps all around pakistan, thrown away by families who just don't want them just because they're girls. and girls, by the way, are considered a financial burden on families there. i want you to watch this report. >> reporter: it's in garbage piles like this where according to an aid group pakistan's worst tragedy is unfolding. the killing and dumping of newborn baby girls. >> sometimes they kill, they hang -- >> reporter: they...
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where was pakistan at that time? in some ways this beak is also a book about america and pakistan, america and islam, so, you know, i don't want to sort of lose sight of those aspects of the book in, you know, in the fine grain because she is a vehicle for a lot of these sort of meditations, but as to the question of what i decided to do with her letters. i felt it was important for -- to have her as a vehicle for the reader to experience her letters, you know, with immediacy in her own words rather than me paraphrasing them or, you know, saying, you know, well, she says that she graduated from high school in 1953, but actually it was 1952. i find that correcting voice as a biographer is very distancing, and i wanted the readers to feel about her the way i felt about her when i first started reading the letters, to be completely sucked into her world, and, you know, if i, you know, had said at the outset that, you know, that she was institutionalized, then you know people will just say she's crazy and not have to wre
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is holding aid to pakistan. they're with holding it, expelling military trainers and they hope holidaying back all that money will make pakistan crack down harder on militants and terrorists. what's the best way to describe the relationship with pakistan right now? >> they've been an important ally in the fight on terrorism, they've been the victim of enormous amounts of terrorism, but right now they have taken steps that have given us reason to pause on aid which we have give on the their military and we're trying to work through that. it's a complicated relationship in a difficult part of the world. >>> and here's a figure for you. $37 billion. according to them, that much money could vanish this year from pockets. two out of ten dollars americans took in came in the form of money from government and when those extended benefits go away by the end of the year, some $37 billion onto go into people's accounts and hence won't go into the economy. let e let's go to kristie lu stout for your morning hit from hong k
is holding aid to pakistan. they're with holding it, expelling military trainers and they hope holidaying back all that money will make pakistan crack down harder on militants and terrorists. what's the best way to describe the relationship with pakistan right now? >> they've been an important ally in the fight on terrorism, they've been the victim of enormous amounts of terrorism, but right now they have taken steps that have given us reason to pause on aid which we have give on the...
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that pakistan was not happy with this unilateral action from washington, the u.s. forces watching the bin laden compound. many stru as a violation of the sovereignty and this arrest, another indication that pakistan still is unhappy, perhaps a way of sending a message to washington, and also a way of finding out how the cia managed to set up an elaborate intelligence network on the ground here in pakistan behind the government's back. suzanne? >> reza sayah, thank very much. >>> a government shutdown. 20,000 people now out of work. the standoff hits home for one family when both parents are laid off from their state jobs. >>> 20,000 workers in minnesota face another day off the job. the democratic governor and republican lawmakers are locked in a stalemate over the state's $5 billion budget deficit. as chris welsh spent an afternoon with the family caught in the middle of this budget standoff to find out how they're coping. >> it's hard. i miss my job, and i miss doing the work that i know is so important for minnesota. i work for the office of emergency preparedne
that pakistan was not happy with this unilateral action from washington, the u.s. forces watching the bin laden compound. many stru as a violation of the sovereignty and this arrest, another indication that pakistan still is unhappy, perhaps a way of sending a message to washington, and also a way of finding out how the cia managed to set up an elaborate intelligence network on the ground here in pakistan behind the government's back. suzanne? >> reza sayah, thank very much. >>>...
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but i have to go to pakistan. and one element of the story that i haven't really discussed so much as they demand that invited mary ann to margaret barker is to come up with him and his family in pakistan. and this man is like, what condi was to india, this man was to pakistan. but this is another question at the heart of the book. why did this incredibly powerful islamic political leader invited to jewish girl that he had been corresponding with for a year to live with them as his daughter. i mean, here he had nine children, but is inviting yet another woman to his house in pakistan. so it's one thing to sort of go back and forth as to who marion gmail it is, but then you need the historical context. where was pakistan at that time? influence among us, this book is also a book about america and pakistan, america and islam. so you know, i don't want to sort of loose sight of those aspects of the book and the fine-grained because marionette symbolizes a vehicle for a lot of these meditations. but as to the question
but i have to go to pakistan. and one element of the story that i haven't really discussed so much as they demand that invited mary ann to margaret barker is to come up with him and his family in pakistan. and this man is like, what condi was to india, this man was to pakistan. but this is another question at the heart of the book. why did this incredibly powerful islamic political leader invited to jewish girl that he had been corresponding with for a year to live with them as his daughter. i...
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and pakistan were not on the same page. >> we will following this. reza, thanks. >>> petree watched as a gra maid landed near him. he grabbed grabbed the grenade and threw it back. it severed his right hand. this afternoon he is awarded the medal of honor for his life-saving action. barbara starr is joining us live from the pentagon. barbara, tell us more about this pretty usa young man. >> reporter: he will receive the medal of honor later today from president obama in the white house what they call acting above and beyond the call of duty. it was a very daring daylight raid that they were on. usually, these types of compound raids take place under the cover of darkness. they went in during the day after insurgents. when they got in the compound, heavy fire end. the only place to find cover was a chicken coop and where they tried to fire back from. petree, a grenade tossed to his area in the chicken coop. he picked it up, already wounded and threw it back at the insurgents. it went off in his hand and he lost his right hand. but according to other t
and pakistan were not on the same page. >> we will following this. reza, thanks. >>> petree watched as a gra maid landed near him. he grabbed grabbed the grenade and threw it back. it severed his right hand. this afternoon he is awarded the medal of honor for his life-saving action. barbara starr is joining us live from the pentagon. barbara, tell us more about this pretty usa young man. >> reporter: he will receive the medal of honor later today from president obama in the...
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drone attack in pakistan. do you think we're deciding to take on more of this responsibility ourselves? not trusting the pakistanis to take out the militants? >> president obama has been ratcheting up the drone attacks for a long time. they've increased gee metically on his watch, but it's also true that some pakistanis were killed by terror groups in a part of the country that hasn't seen violence today. either way you look at this, e.d., we're in a downward spiral in terms of our relationship with the pakistanis. i think this going public with the cut in the military aid package is an expression of frustration that the private efforts have not succeeded. i would like to suggest that we need a game changer here. the pakistanis have been worried about india for years. that drives their policy in afghanistan and even in pakistan. i think if we could ratchet up efforts to convene a regional conference, peace conference, including china, russia, india and then the countries in the ren region, including iran, we h
drone attack in pakistan. do you think we're deciding to take on more of this responsibility ourselves? not trusting the pakistanis to take out the militants? >> president obama has been ratcheting up the drone attacks for a long time. they've increased gee metically on his watch, but it's also true that some pakistanis were killed by terror groups in a part of the country that hasn't seen violence today. either way you look at this, e.d., we're in a downward spiral in terms of our...
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drone strikes in pakistan now it's anybody that follows our ever expanding war on terrorism that statement seems a little too good to be true and what do you know it was this week the bureau of investigative journalism released a report that since august of two thousand and ten they have uncovered at least ten individual attacks in which forty five or more civilians appear to have and that's a conservative estimate thing is it's also isn't the first time that a u.s. officials made a claim that under further investigation turned out to be completely false think back to the interview that we did with investigative reporter gareth porter who found that when general petraeus claimed last year that his rates have been a spectacular success over thirteen hundred taliban have been captured well he failed to mention the more than ninety percent of those captured been released within days and found to be nothing more than innocent civilians or think back to when general john allen who's just taken over the war in afghanistan from the tray is so it's of members of congress that violence in the count
drone strikes in pakistan now it's anybody that follows our ever expanding war on terrorism that statement seems a little too good to be true and what do you know it was this week the bureau of investigative journalism released a report that since august of two thousand and ten they have uncovered at least ten individual attacks in which forty five or more civilians appear to have and that's a conservative estimate thing is it's also isn't the first time that a u.s. officials made a claim that...
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let's remember that the united states for most of the cold war, backed pakistan, not india. the indian foreign policy establishment has a tendency to be in any case a little bit, you know, third world-ish and anti-american in its own ways. and so it's been a long fall in relations between india and the united states, a very -- begun by bill clinton, crucially improved by george w. bush, and now being further improved by president obama and secretary clinton. i think it's still a work in progress. you can see that they have some thorny issues with regard to the nuclear deals, you know, the indians are not being as forthcoming in allowing the american companies to participate in what will be a vast indian market for nuclear energy. and as long as the arrow is moving in the right direction, i think we're probably doing well. when we deal with pakistan, we see all the problems of dealing with a country that is not really a democracy. with india you see all the problems of dealing with a country that is completely a porous, functioning, chaotic democracy, which means the governme
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kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said, what are you nuts? all you're going to do is get both sides angry at you. so the administration has stayed away from that as the bush administration did, you know, kind of like it's poison, and that's probably the right policy. so the notion that this council could actually do much other than, you know, throw a few cocktail parties and actually influence u.s. policy, boy, what a waste of money. jon: all right. jim carafano from the heritage foundation. read more from him on foxnews.com on this topic. jim, thank you. jenna: new developments surrounding oper
kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said,...
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the war is about to shift away from taliban strongholds in the south and to the eastern border with pakistan where al qaeda still operates. general david petraeus is retiring from the army later this month and will become the new director of the c.i.a. mandy clark spoke with him today in kabul about the way forward in afghanistan. >> reporter: the last days of general david petraeus's command have been marked by two major events: the president's decision to begin withdrawing u.s. forces and days later an audacious attack on one of kabul's most important hotels. general petraeus told us the assault should not be seen as a setback. do you really think that the afghan security forces are ready if they can't protect a major hotel in the cap all? >> i can tell you that our special forces who were sporp not leading and not doing-- for the afghan forces who saw the crisis response unit said that they responded very courageously. in fact, that they took the loss of life with the wounded in action i think underscores that fact. >> reporter: but the training of afghan forces is uneven at best. witness
the war is about to shift away from taliban strongholds in the south and to the eastern border with pakistan where al qaeda still operates. general david petraeus is retiring from the army later this month and will become the new director of the c.i.a. mandy clark spoke with him today in kabul about the way forward in afghanistan. >> reporter: the last days of general david petraeus's command have been marked by two major events: the president's decision to begin withdrawing u.s. forces...
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one in afghanistan and the one in pakistan. there's a conflict in pakistan. there isn't a foreign intervention trying to resolve it. it is a great internal conflict. what we are seeing in pakistan is a series of contradictory policies, contradictory engagements and contradictory engagements. the army wants to preserve a stable pakistan that is assured of security and sees the united states as a component of the success in that quest. the military is defective. intelligence service seems to be torn and of course in the country at large, strong fundment list tendencies. it's not a single entity. it's fragmented. we have no choice until we are out of afghanistan to cooperate as much as we can with those pakistanis who see their interest in our success. >> back to the topic of the increasing class and income, we know it's there. you mentioned it's wider now than in country's like china. what do we think about ourselves given the fact people are lining up at the door to live in the united states of america. a lot of people want to live in china. >> there are two g
one in afghanistan and the one in pakistan. there's a conflict in pakistan. there isn't a foreign intervention trying to resolve it. it is a great internal conflict. what we are seeing in pakistan is a series of contradictory policies, contradictory engagements and contradictory engagements. the army wants to preserve a stable pakistan that is assured of security and sees the united states as a component of the success in that quest. the military is defective. intelligence service seems to be...
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the military believes the gunmen were members of the pakistani pakistan in the swat valley. again, in 2009, a military operation chased them away. they say it's a tactic that will not work. wolf? >> an amazing, very, very amazing story. thanks very much for that. it's a startling claim by a man who wants to be president of the united states. we're going to focus on new remarks by republican presidential candidate herman cain who's taking his very vocal concerns about muslims to a whole new level. and when rupert murdoch faces british law makers in a matter of hours, he may feel like he and his entire media empire are on trial. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." discover customersl are getting five percent cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to switch, it pays to discover. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private, even hybrid. your data and apps must move easily and securely to reach many clouds, not just one. that'
the military believes the gunmen were members of the pakistani pakistan in the swat valley. again, in 2009, a military operation chased them away. they say it's a tactic that will not work. wolf? >> an amazing, very, very amazing story. thanks very much for that. it's a startling claim by a man who wants to be president of the united states. we're going to focus on new remarks by republican presidential candidate herman cain who's taking his very vocal concerns about muslims to a whole...
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and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both sides, because here at home, you have political pressure from congress. as part of the new defense spending bill, the secretary of defense and the secretary of state have to sort of write a report on exactly where this money is going before congress sort of loosens the purse strings and authorizes that money to go to pakistan. and on their side, their military was humiliated by that bin laden raid. there's a lot of pressure on the pakistan side to sort of stand firm and be tough with the u.s. at this point. >> interesting to see what develo
and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both...
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two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you know, we are talking $120 billion. that's combat operations alone. that's not aid. not aid going to other countries. it does not include training. we are talking billions of dollars spent on this operation that we are seeing marginal improvements. >> $120 billion on combat alone per year. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it again, while our infrastructure is crumbling, while we fall behind k-12 in the schools and having to fire teachers, i'm sorry you can't explain this to americans in town hall meetings from california to maine down to south florida. they don't understand. >> it goes back to a great line i heart.
two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you...
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it will have implications on pakistan. if you quit in 2014, whatever has been declared, obviously the best strategy for the taliban or the enemy, al qaeda and taliban, is to lie low, let time pass, and then rise again. so declaring... giving a timeline, i have always been saying that it ought to be effected, what effects do we want to create? you can't have it time related because then you'll be in the hands of the enemy, i would say. and if you leave in 2014 without stabilizing afghanistan, what will happen then? we need to visualize. >> well, the problem is... the difficulty i think for america is afghanistan hasn't been stable since, i guess, hannibal. (laughter) so the idea that we could stay there... (laughter). they don't appear to want to be stabilized so i mean... i guess the problem is can we really do that? can we do that for a country and is pakistan going to give them the room that they would need to do that or would they perhaps try and have some influence with the taliban adds well? >> well, first of all, i t
it will have implications on pakistan. if you quit in 2014, whatever has been declared, obviously the best strategy for the taliban or the enemy, al qaeda and taliban, is to lie low, let time pass, and then rise again. so declaring... giving a timeline, i have always been saying that it ought to be effected, what effects do we want to create? you can't have it time related because then you'll be in the hands of the enemy, i would say. and if you leave in 2014 without stabilizing afghanistan,...
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. >> america is concerned about pakistan. following their success in the osama bin laden operation, people are wanting to the ideas of stopping the terrorists in their tracks. >> pakistan might prove to be the major challenge in the so- called war on terror. the rising confidence of extremist groups is making observers extremely nervous, especially as the country is home to what the jihadists like to call the islamic bomb. the last time the world was jittery about security in pakistan was nearly a decade ago just after the 9/11 attacks when washington developed an emergency plans. we have been told that these plans are coming once again and they are contemplating the country expanding their nuclear arsenal at a time of weakness. these are the images behind the latest attack of nerves, a naval base in karachi. they destroyed two u.s.-made spy planes in a well-executed operation which is believed to have received support from elements within the armed forces. >> the raid on that particular naval facility was unique in this sens
. >> america is concerned about pakistan. following their success in the osama bin laden operation, people are wanting to the ideas of stopping the terrorists in their tracks. >> pakistan might prove to be the major challenge in the so- called war on terror. the rising confidence of extremist groups is making observers extremely nervous, especially as the country is home to what the jihadists like to call the islamic bomb. the last time the world was jittery about security in...
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. >>> and a change at the cia station in pakistan could improve relations with that country. ththtop cia official there who led the team that found osama bin laden is leaving for medical reasons. he had extremely tense reretionship and departure could help. >>> back in in country, four people were killed when two o small planes collided in alaska. one crashed and killed everyone on board and somehow the other one, the float plane managed to land safely despite significant damage. >>> and in ohio, two pilots were killed when a replica of the wright brothers biplane crashed. during a test flight. both pilots had experience which was built to modern standards. >>> and finally, forget traditional red and black cars. one buyer in michigan got a one of a kind color. or kind of a noncolor. it's transparent, 1939 pontiac ghost car, it's called, sold for $308,000. it was built with a plexiglas body and was first displayed at the 1938 world's fair. it only has 100 miles on it. 72-year-old car. >> you don't want to drive it around town. >> park it in front of your yard and let your neig
. >>> and a change at the cia station in pakistan could improve relations with that country. ththtop cia official there who led the team that found osama bin laden is leaving for medical reasons. he had extremely tense reretionship and departure could help. >>> back in in country, four people were killed when two o small planes collided in alaska. one crashed and killed everyone on board and somehow the other one, the float plane managed to land safely despite significant...
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otr c.e.o.s to pakistan, save the children was on the ground and doing extraordinary work. in pakistan and it sort of stuck in my mind that is the kind of organization i would love to be a part of. >> when mulcahy retired from xerox after 34 years, she remembered that trip to pakistan. >> i wanted to make a change and i've always had a belief that if you are privileged to have a role like that, your post c.e.o. life should be about hopefully making a difference in a world of social responsibilities. >> she says her corrate background comes in handy in her new role. >> if you've had a long career in the corporate world, your relationships your ability to get visibility towards important topics becomes very important. there is a discipline in the corporate world about return on investment and metrics that are expected by donors these days in the non-profit world are also enhanced by some of that corporate experience. so it's not so much the corporate set of skills versus the non-profit set of skills. it's the combination that i think is so powerful. >> her work with save the
otr c.e.o.s to pakistan, save the children was on the ground and doing extraordinary work. in pakistan and it sort of stuck in my mind that is the kind of organization i would love to be a part of. >> when mulcahy retired from xerox after 34 years, she remembered that trip to pakistan. >> i wanted to make a change and i've always had a belief that if you are privileged to have a role like that, your post c.e.o. life should be about hopefully making a difference in a world of social...
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next thing we know, in pakistan helping with bomb strikes. >> his initial reports are accurate? he's talking, as you say, about damage done by the drones. then he sends a piece of video that shows him in the company of a top al qaeda. somebody we've been looking for for a long time, and then the mother load of information. he claims he's now rendered medical services to ayman al zawahiri. correct? >> how clever he was, weaving in between two worlds, the cia and al qaeda and convincing everyone he's on their side. but ultimately, as we discover later, he's actually on al qaeda's side in this elaborate plot, an incredible lure was set up by al qaeda using their own video equipment and knowledge it was set up by al qaeda, using their own video equipment and their own knowledge of how the cia works to create something so attractive that the cia could not possibly say no to it. >> the reason that the cia found him credible, although through the jordanians, and he knew the medical history of zawahiri, and it matched the information we from his egyptian files. and now the objective bec
next thing we know, in pakistan helping with bomb strikes. >> his initial reports are accurate? he's talking, as you say, about damage done by the drones. then he sends a piece of video that shows him in the company of a top al qaeda. somebody we've been looking for for a long time, and then the mother load of information. he claims he's now rendered medical services to ayman al zawahiri. correct? >> how clever he was, weaving in between two worlds, the cia and al qaeda and...
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i mean the pakistan in and of itself georgetown we had the pearl daniel pearl project and we looked at this inside and out it is a crazy situation over there is a very complex country and the relationship between our two countries has been a kin to you know codependent co violent spouses you know i love you i hate you i love you i hate you sometimes in the same breath i mean literally power. to go on each other and the military is part of that in the military runs a guy outside the i.s.i. could not be trusted in the eyes of the ministration to deal with some of bin ladin you know in our we didn't know he was there that you have a population that hates the united states as well china has a much bigger you know public relations profile over there than we do and we give them billions of dollars so it's a very complex thing you know public enemy number one it was in their country it's a it's a history of this stuff going back to the daniel pearl thing where you know the government basically put somebody who had nothing to do with killing him on trial and harming the guy you know so it's co
i mean the pakistan in and of itself georgetown we had the pearl daniel pearl project and we looked at this inside and out it is a crazy situation over there is a very complex country and the relationship between our two countries has been a kin to you know codependent co violent spouses you know i love you i hate you i love you i hate you sometimes in the same breath i mean literally power. to go on each other and the military is part of that in the military runs a guy outside the i.s.i. could...
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the provides education for the communities of pakistan and afghanistan. >> i came back to america, i was broke after k 2. i had to raise 12 thousand dollars. and i didn't know how a clue of how to raise money like that. i went to the local library. any librarians here? let's give them a big hand. [applause] so, i went to the library, i talked to the librarian we looked up 580 cell rities and sports heroes. over 3 months i hand typed 580 letters and wrote dollar michael jordan and dear mr. stalone. guess what happened? nothing. at christmas i got a check from tom brocaw for a hundred dollars. i sold my car a buick for 500 dollars in a seedy area in oakland. by spring i raised 200 dollars. my marth was a principal at an elementary school. she invited me to talk to the kids. when i was leaving a fourth grader looked me in the eye and said, i have a piggy bank at home and i will help you raise money for the school in pakistan. i didn't think anything of it. 6 weeks later the school is raised 65,000 penes. >> main stage's loud efts performance was about bief the detroit native high strung
the provides education for the communities of pakistan and afghanistan. >> i came back to america, i was broke after k 2. i had to raise 12 thousand dollars. and i didn't know how a clue of how to raise money like that. i went to the local library. any librarians here? let's give them a big hand. [applause] so, i went to the library, i talked to the librarian we looked up 580 cell rities and sports heroes. over 3 months i hand typed 580 letters and wrote dollar michael jordan and dear mr....
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this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's always pakistan is a basket case, a nuclear basket case. stay in afghanistan. >> you don't. you don't. >> it's not going to work. that is washington's argument, mike barnicle. pakistan is stabilized. we have to keep having american troops killed in afghanistan. it doesn't add up. invading cambodia is the right move when you are going into vietnam. >> continuing argument and keep making it because less than 1% of american families and american people are serving in the military in afghanistan. >> there you go. >> back to the draft. >> untouched. >> we need a draft. >> we'll
this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's...
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information and we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business who donates to you? >> of course. but you see, a lot of the times if you disclose information who you're helping, it end up biting. >> reporter: the business in fact shoebat leaves to his manager keith davies who was down the hall selling shoebat's anti-islam books. when cnn had specific questions about the business, like perhaps the names of the high-ranking generals and experts he says are on his board of advisors, well, shoebat said get the names from davies. >> walid said that you would be able to tell us about your advisory board. you guys said you have generals and other high-ranking officials? >> correct. >> can you tell us who they are? >> off the top of my head, yes. let me see. i'm trying to think. names gone blank. they'll come back to me in a second. major general -- i can't remember. four star -- a three star general
information and we do speaking and we do also helping christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> and how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> isn't it anyone's business who donates to you? >> of course. but you see, a lot of the times if you disclose information who you're helping, it end up biting. >> reporter: the business in fact shoebat leaves to his...
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that is the materials that came out of osama bin laden's home in pakistan. there is evidence as late as february 2010 bin laden wanted strikes in the u.s., particularly around symbolic holidays. are you more concerned than you usually would be about this weekend or are you feeling reasonably steady that this looks like a weekend that we are well prepared for? >> i would almost say all of the above. i do feel reasonably secure because we have increased security as far as alerting local governments, alerting the private sector. there is no doubt we do know al qaeda was talking more about attacking the u.s. on symbolic dates. also in the lead up to 9/11, the tenth anniversary of september 11th, we know they are considering, trying to plan attacks. having said that, i'm not aware of any particular attack being planned right now. we do know they are looking for symbolism. they want to do something dramatic before september 11th. obviously, fourth of july would be a prime time for that. everyone has been alerted to be on extra guard, to be much more careful. becau
that is the materials that came out of osama bin laden's home in pakistan. there is evidence as late as february 2010 bin laden wanted strikes in the u.s., particularly around symbolic holidays. are you more concerned than you usually would be about this weekend or are you feeling reasonably steady that this looks like a weekend that we are well prepared for? >> i would almost say all of the above. i do feel reasonably secure because we have increased security as far as alerting local...